Thursday, July 17, 2014

Malaysia Airlines passenger plane reported crashed in Ukraine (with 295 people on board)

A Malaysia Airlines passenger plane with 295 people on board has crashed in Ukraine near the Russian border, Interfax cited an aviation industry source as saying.
It said the Boeing plane was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.
Malaysia Airlines tweeted that it had lost contact with MH17 and its last known position was over Ukraine.
The Interfax report said the plane came down 50km short of entering Russian airspace.
It "began to drop, afterwards it was found burning on the ground on Ukrainian territory," the unnamed source said.

The plane appeared to have come down in a region of military action where Ukrainian government forces are battling pro-Russian separatists.
A separate unnamed source in the Ukrainian security apparatus, quoted by Interfax, said the plane disappeared from radar at a height of 10,000 metres after which it came down near the town of Shakhtyorsk.

***There are unconfirmed reports from the Ukrainian interior ministry that the airliner was shot down by a ground-to-air missile........


  1. Malaysian passenger plane crashes in Ukraine near Russian border: Ifax....

    (Reuters) - A Malaysian passenger airliner with 295 people on board crashed in Ukraine near the Russian border on Thursday, the Interfax news agency cited an aviation industry source as saying.

    The Boeing plane was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, it said. Reuters could not immediately confirm the report.

    The Interfax report said the plane came down 50 km (20 miles) short of entering Russian airspace. It "began to drop, afterwards it was found burning on the ground on Ukrainian territory," the unnamed source said.

    The plane appeared to have come down in a region of military action where Ukrainian government forces are battling pro-Russian separatists.

    A separate unnamed source in the Ukrainian security apparatus, quoted by Interfax, said the plane disappeared from radar at a height of 10,000 metres after which it came down near the town of Shakhtyorsk..................

  2. Malaysian Airlines have confirmed the accident and will be releasing a statement shortly........

    The plane did not enter Russian airspace when it was expected to and crashed in the Donetsk city of eastern Ukraine.

    Malaysia Airlines posted a tweet saying: "Malaysia Airlines has lost contact of MH17 from Amsterdam. The last known position was over Ukraine airspace. More details to follow."

    Only hours earlier Russian forces were accused of shooting down a Ukrainian jet while it was on a mission over Ukrainian territory.

    A spokesman for the Ukrainian National Security and Defence Council, said an Su-25 ground attack plane was downed on Wednesday evening.

    The crash comes only months after the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 disappeared on March 8.........................

  3. Malaysia Airlines passenger plane crashes in east Ukraine, reports say....

    Flight believed to be carrying 295 people on board goes down near town of Snizhne, says Russian news agency

    A passenger jet has crashed in eastern Ukraine in an area where separatist rebels have been engaging Ukrainian army forces in recent weeks.

    The Malaysia Airlines plane, travelling from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, apparently had 295 people on board and crashed near the town of Snizhne, according to a report from Interfax news agency which could not immediately be confirmed.

    The airline's official Twitter account said: "Malaysia Airlines said has lost contact of MH17 from Amsterdam. The last known position was over Ukrainian airspace. More details to follow."..............

  4. Malaysia Airlines passenger jet reportedly shot down in Ukraine...

    A Malaysian Airlines passenger plane with 295 aboard was shot down by a surface-to-air missile in Ukraine near the Russian border, according to multiple reports.

    The airline, the same one whose plane disappeared over the Indian Ocean in March, confirmed only that "an incident" had occurred involving the Boeing 777, which was en route to Kuala Lumpur from Amsterdam.

    “Malaysia Airlines has lost contact of MH17 from Amsterdam," read a tweet from the airline. "The last known position was over Ukrainian airspace. More details to follow,” read a tweet from Malaysia Airlines’ account.

    Multiple reports said the plane was shot down at cruising altitude. Anton Gerashenko, an adviser to Ukraine's Interior Minister told The Associated press that the plane, carrying 280 passengers and 15 crew people onboard, was shot down.

    Gerashenko says on his Facebook page the plane was flying at an altitude of 33,000 feet when it was hit Thursday by a missile fired from a Buk launcher. A similar launcher was seen by Associated Press journalists near the eastern Ukrainian town of Snizhne earlier Thursday.

    The adviser also told Russian news agency Interfax that all onboard have been killed.

    Pentagon Spokesman Col. Steve Warren said he was aware of reports of the downed passenger jet in Ukraine,but did not have further information..............................

  5. Malaysia Airlines plane shot down in Ukraine near Russian border...

    The Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 reportedly had 280 passengers and 15 crew members when it went down in a war-torn region of Ukraine.

    A Malaysia Airlines passenger plane was reportedly shot down in Ukraine near the Russian border Thursday.

    The Boeing 777 had 280 passengers and 15 crew members, Interfax reported citing an an aviation industry source.

    Anton Gerashenko, an adviser to Ukraine's Interior Minister, said on Facebook that the plane was flying at an altituse of 33,000 feet when it was hit by a missile fired from a Buk launcher.

    It came down just 20 miles short of entering Russian airspace near the town of Shakhtyorsk, in an area where the Ukrainian government has been fighting pro-Russian rebels.

    It "began to drop, afterwards it was found burning on the ground on Ukrainian territory," a unidentified source told Reuters...................

  6. Un Boeing 777 de la compagnie Malaysia Airlines parti d’Amsterdam à destination de Kuala Lumpur s’est écrasé dans la région de Donetsk, à 60 km de la frontière russe.

    A son bord se trouvaient 280 passagers et 15 membres d’équipage. Selon les premiers éléments disponibles, il n’y aurait pas de survivants.
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  7. Malaysia Airlines Plane Crash: Flight Reportedly Shot Down Over Ukraine (LATEST UPDATES)...

    Interfax news agency reports that a Malaysian jet has crashed in eastern Ukraine, near the Russian border. The Malaysian Airlines passenger plane had 295 people on board and was on its way from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.

    Anton Gerashenko, an adviser to Ukraine's Interior Minister, wrote on Facebook that the plane was hit by a missile fired from a Buk launcher over the country's east, the Associated Press notes.

    Malaysia Airlines confirmed it had lost contact with flight MH17 and that its last position was over Ukrainian airspace.

    A Russian aviation industry source told Reuters that the plane did not enter Russian airspace when expected.

    Ukraine's east has seen heavy fighting between the country's military and separatists in recent days. Earlier on Thursday, the Ukrainian military claimed Russian jets had shot down a Ukrainian warplane late Wednesday night.
    This is breaking news. Check back later for updates...................

  8. Ukrainian PM identifies shot-down plane as missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH17; says launching investigation ...

    Malaysia Airlines confirmed that it has lost contact of flight MH17 from Amsterdam on Thursday. The last known position was over Ukrainian airspace.

    Separately, an advisor to the Ukraine interior minister told AP that a passenger plane carrying 295 people had been shot down in Ukraine. A YouTube video purported to show footage from moments after the plane went down.

    Reuters reported that the Ukrainian prime minister has identified the shot-down plane as missing Malaysian Airlines flight and has ordered an investigation....................

  9. Ukraine Official Says Malaysian Airlines Plane Shot Down Over Donetsk...

    *Ukraine Interior Ministry Adviser: Malaysian Airlines Passenger Plane Shot Down Over Donetsk Region........

  10. Malaysia airliner crashes in east Ukraine near Russia border... Analysis: Jonathan Beale, BBC News...

    A defence expert has told the BBC that shooting down a plane at 10,000m (9.7 miles) would have required a long- range surface-to-air missile - possibly guided by radar.

    That suggests it is unlikely it could have been downed by a portable air defence missile, or Manpad, which has a much shorter range.

    The only other possibility is for an aircraft at that height to be downed by a fighter carrying air-to-air missiles.

    The US will have access to satellite imagery that should be able to identify ultra-violet plumes if a long-range surface-to-air missile was fired. ..............

  11. Un avion de ligne malaisien qui transportait 295 personnes s'est écrasé jeudi 17 juillet en Ukraine, près de la frontière russe. L'appareil, un Boeing, assurait la liaison entre Amsterdam et Kuala Lumpur, indique l'agence Interfax.....

    L'avion a disparu des radars à dix mille mètres d'altitude, puis s'est écrasé près de la ville de Chakhtarsk, dans la région de Donetsk, ont rapporté les agences Itar-Tass et Interfax-Ukraine.

    Cette dernière a cité une source "au sein des forces de l'ordre ukrainiennes", ajoutant qu'un groupe de secouristes du ministère des Situations d'urgence se rendait sur place. L'agence russe Itar-Tass a cité "les milieux de l'aviation". Une partie de la région de Donetsk est contrôlée par des séparatistes prorusses...............

  12. Un Boeing malaisien aurait été abattu par un missile russe dans l’est de l’Ukraine...

    Un avion de ligne malaisien avec 295 personnes à son bord s’est écrasé jeudi en Ukraine près de la frontière russe, rapporte l’agence de presse Interfax. Le Boeing 777-200 assurait la liaison entre Amsterdam et Kuala Lumpur.

    L'agence Interfax a cité une source « au sein des forces de l’ordre ukrainiennes », ajoutant qu’un groupe de secouristes du ministère des Situations d’urgence se rendait sur place. L’agence russe Itar-Tass a cité « les milieux de l’aviation ». Une partie de la région de Donetsk est contrôlée par des séparatistes prorusses......En savoir plus sur

  13. Un avión malasio con 295 ocupantes se estrella al este de Ucrania...

    Un avión de pasajeros malasio con 295 personas a bordo se ha estrellado en Ucrania, cerca de la frontera con Rusia, según una fuente de la industria de aviación citada por la agencia de noticias rusa Interfax. La aerolínea Malaysia Airlines ha informado en la red social Twitter de que ha perdido contacto con el vuelo MH17 procedente de Ámsterdam, y que la última posición de la aeronave estaba en el espacio aéreo ucranio. El ministro de Interior ucranio ha asegurado que no hay supervivientes, en declaraciones a Interfax que cita Reuters. El primer ministro ucranio (sic), Petro Poroshenko, ha declarado en un comunicado que "no excluye" que el avión "haya sido abatido"...................

  14. Ucrania acusa a los separatistas prorrusos del derribo del avión de Malaysian Airlines...

    Un avión de pasajeros de la compañía Malaysian Airlines con 295 personas a bordo ha sido derribado en Ucrania, cerca de la frontera con Rusia, según ha informado la agencia rusa de noticias Interfax. El Gobierno de Kiev ha confirmado que los 280 pasajeros y los 15 miembros de la tripulación han muerto.

    Interfax asegura que el avión ha sido derribado por un misil tierra-aire tipo BUK, según un consejero del Ministerio del Interior ucraniano. Tanto Rusia como Ucrania disponen de este tipo de armamento. El sistema de misiles Buk es una familia de misiles antiaéreos de alcance medio desarrollados por la antigua Unión Soviética y Rusia para atacar misiles guiados, helicópteros y drones................

  15. 295 Tote: Malaysische Boeing über Ukraine abgeschossen?...

    n der Ukraine ist am Donnerstag ein Passagierflugzeug abgestürzt. Die Maschine war aus Amsterdam nach Malaysia unterwegs. Nach Angaben ukrainischer Behörden wurde das Flugzeug abgeschossen, alle 295 Insassen kamen ums Leben.

    „Eine Boeing 777 war von Amsterdam nach Kuala Lumpur unterwegs und stürzte nördlich von Tores (Gebiet Donezk) ab“, sagte Wladislaw Selesnjow, Sprecher der ukrainischen Anti-Terror-Operation. Anton Geraschtschenko, Berater des ukrainischen Innenministers Arsen Awakow, schrieb auf Facebook, dass die Boeing in 10.000 Meter Höhe geflogen und von einem Flugabwehrsystem vom Typ Buk abgeschossen worden sei. „280 Passagiere und 15 Besatzungsmitglieder kamen um.“ ..................

  16. Ukraine’s anti-aircraft missile system dispatched to Donetsk Wednesday....

    Ukraine’s armed forces dispatched the Buk anti-aircraft missile system battalion to the area of the city of Donetsk on Wednesday, a well-informed source said referring to the data recording system.

    Another battalion of the same weapons is said to be in the process of embarkation in the city of Kharkiv, northwest of Donetsk, the source said adding that the aircraft at an altitude of over 10,000 meters could be shot down only with the weapons of the S-300 or Buk (Beech) missile systems.

    In the meantime, militias of the self-proclaimed republics of Donetsk and Luhansk have said they do not possess armament systems of this class...................

  17. Une division de système sol-air Bouk de l'armée ukrainienne se trouve depuis mercredi dans la région de Donetsk (est) où un Boeing de Malaysia Airlines s'est écrasé ce jeudi faisant 295 morts, a appris RIA Novosti d'une source digne de foi à Moscou....

    "Selon un système de contrôle objectif, une division de systèmes Bouk des Forces armées ukrainiennes est arrivée mercredi dans la région de Donetsk. Une autre division de ces armes s'apprêter à quitter Kharkov", a indiqué l'interlocuteur de l'agence.

    D'après lui, seuls les systèmes sol-air Bouk ou S-300 sont capables d'abattre un avion volant à 10.000 d'altitude.

    Le conseiller du ministre ukrainien de l'Intérieur Anton Guérachtchenko a estimé jeudi que l'avion serait abattu par un système sol-air Bouk. L'administration du président ukrainien Piotr Porochenko a aussi reconnu cette hypothèse.

    Le Boeing 777 malaisien reliant Amsterdam (Pays-Bas) à Kuala Lumpur (Malaisie) avec 280 passagers et 15 membres d'équipage à bord s'est écrasé jeudi dans la région ukrainienne de Donetsk (est).......................

  18. Putin informs Obama on Malaysian jet crash in eastern Ukraine...

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has informed Barack Obama on the air controlling services' report about the crash of Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 jet in eastern Ukraine on Thursday.

    Putin said the report had come in just as they were about to begin their conversation.

    The Russian president earlier expressed deep condolences to Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak over the Malaysian jet crash on the territory of Ukraine.

    Meanwhile, Malaysian Defense Ministry currently has no confirmations that the Boeing 777 was shot down. Defense Minister Hishammuddin Hussein stated on Thursday that the country's authorities are checking the arriving reports................

  19. La RPD n’a pas d’armes capables d’abattre un avion à une altitude de 10 mille mètres...

    Les miliciens n’ont pas d’armes capables d’abattre un avion à une altitude de 10 mille mètres, a déclaré le Premier ministre de la République Populaire autoproclamée de Donetsk, Alexander Borodaï.

    Selon lui, l’avion qui s’est écrasé était plus petit qu’un Boeing. De plus, le Premier ministre a rappelé que Kiev a fermé l’espace aérien au dessus des Républiques Populaires de Donetsk et de Lougansk pour les vols d’avions civils.

    Précédemment, un représentant du ministère de l’Intérieur ukrainien, Anton Gerashchenko, a dit que l’avion avait été abattu par des missiles anti-aériens de type Buk. Il sont conçus pour les troupes de défense aérienne et peuvent atteindre des cibles jusqu’à une altitude de 25 km..................Lire la suite:

  20. A Ukrainian army battalion of Buk air defense systems was deployed near the city of Donetsk a day before the crash of a Malaysian passenger plane on Thursday, making the downing of the aircraft by one of the missiles highly probable, an expert source said....

    "According to reconnaissance data, a Ukrainian army battalion of Buk air defense systems was deployed near Donetsk on Wednesday morning,” the source said................

  21. Les avions militaires russes n'ont pas effectué de vols jeudi près de la frontière russo-ukrainienne, a annoncé à RIA Novosti une source au sein du ministère russe de la Défense....

    "Il n'y a pas eu de vols d'avions de combat russes dans l'espace aérien de la Russie au-dessus des territoires attenants à la région de Donetsk", a déclaré la source.

    "Ce fait est facile à démonter à l'aide des moyens de contrôle objectif", a souligné l'interlocuteur de l'agence...................

  22. Malaysian prime minister shocked by reports about Boeing crash in Ukraine...

    Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak “is shocked by the reports about the Malaysia Airlines plane crash”.

    According to Bernama news agency, the prime minister “ordered to immediately check this information”.

    Earlier it has been also reported that Malaysia’s Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai and his office were already engaged in the check and analyzing all the arriving reports.......

  23. UN calls tragedy Boeing crash on Russian-Ukrainian border...

    The secretariat of the UN plane has called the Malaysian Airlines crash tragedy in Ukraine.

    As the Deputy Secretary General Spokesman Farhan Haq said the UN does not have detailed information about the accident.

    "We have seen reports of a plane crash Malaysian Airlines near the Russian-Ukrainian border. We do not have more information on this subject currently. This is the tragedy and all our thoughts are with the fate of the passengers, crew and their families," he said.

    "This is awful. Course, I still do not know anything about this accident," Russia's permanent representative to the UN Vitaly Churkin said. According to him, Security Council members have not discussed the accident. Meanwhile, diplomats do not rule out that the meeting of the Security Council may be convened today..................

  24. Ukraine/crash: une division de systèmes sol-air se trouve près de Donetsk...

    Une division de système sol-air Bouk de l'armée ukrainienne se trouve depuis mercredi dans la région de Donetsk (est) où un Boeing de Malaysia Airlines s'est écrasé ce jeudi faisant 295 morts, a appris RIA Novosti d'une source digne de foi à Moscou.

    "Selon un système de contrôle objectif, une division de systèmes Bouk des Forces armées ukrainiennes est arrivée mercredi dans la région de Donetsk. Une autre division de ces armes s'apprêter à quitter Kharkov", a indiqué l'interlocuteur de l'agence.

    D'après lui, seuls les systèmes sol-air Bouk ou S-300 sont capables d'abattre un avion volant à 10.000 d'altitude.

    Le conseiller du ministre ukrainien de l'Intérieur Anton Guérachtchenko a estimé jeudi que l'avion serait abattu par un système sol-air Bouk. L'administration du président ukrainien Piotr Porochenko a aussi reconnu cette hypothèse........Lire la suite:

  25. Flights rerouted: Planes avoiding Ukraine airspace after Malaysian Airlines crash...

    International passenger flights are avoiding Eastern Ukrainian airspace, following the crash of a Malaysian Airlines plane in Donetsk.

    Airlines are also redirecting their flightpaths to avoid the area where flight MH17 crashed, according to Flightradar24.

    NOTAM has also informed US airlines not to fly in the Ukraine area................

  26. Condolences to Prime Minister of Malaysia Najib Razak...

    Vladimir Putin expressed his deep condolences to Prime Minister of Malaysia Najib Razak in connection with the crash of a Malaysian airlines passenger plane over the Ukrainian territory, which led to numerous casualties.

    The President of Russia asked the Prime Minister of Malaysia to convey his deepest sympathy and support to the victims’ families.

  27. Ukrainian armed forces were not involved in a Malaysian passenger plane being brought down in eastern Ukraine, the presidential press service said on Thursday....

    Interfax quoted it as saying that President Petro Poroshenko did not exclude that the plane had been shot down. "This is the third event in the last few days following An-26 and SU-25 planes being brought down. We do not exclude that this plane was also shot down and we stress that the armed forces of Ukraine did not carry out any action to destroy targets in the air," the press service said.

    Dozens of bodies were scattered around the smouldering wreckage of a passenger jet that crashed in eastern Ukraine on Thursday, a Reuters reporter said..............- See more at:

  28. Both sides in Ukraine deny shooting down Malaysia Airlines plane...

    KIEV, Ukraine — A Ukrainian official said a passenger plane carrying 295 people was shot down Thursday over a town in eastern Ukraine. Malaysia Airlines tweeted that it lost contact with one of its flights over Ukrainian airspace.

    As huge plumes of black smoke rose up near a village in eastern Ukraine, the fate of the passengers aboard the plane wasn't immediately known.

    Anton Gerashenko, an adviser to Ukraine's interior minister, said on his Facebook page the plane was flying at an altitude of 10,000 meters (33,000 feet). He also said it was hit by a missile fired from a Buk launcher, which can fire missiles up to an altitude of 22,000 meters (72,000 feet)..................

  29. Rosaviatsia: Ukraine closed airspace in east to commercial flights 3 days ago...

    Ukraine's National Security and Defense Council took a decision to close the airspace over the area of the so-called anti-terror operation to commercial flights three days ago, a source in the Russian Federal Air Transport Agency (Rosaviatsia) said on Thursday.

    Earlier on Thursday, a source from the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) said that commercial flights in the air space of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions could not be performed as the relevant communications infrastructure had been destroyed there.

    “Kiev operates all air traffic control services and it is unclear how this plane (the Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 that crashed in eastern Ukraine near the Russian border Thursday. — ITAR-TASS) could appear in the area,” he said.

    “During the combat actions at Donetsk’s airport the communication tower, a part of the united air control service, was blown up,” he said adding that “planes cannot fly there”.

  30. Air France a pris la décision d’éviter l’espace aérien ukrainien...

    La compagnie française Air France a pris la décision de réorienter ses vols en contournement du territoire ukrainien après le crash du Boeing 777 de la compagnie aérienne Malaysia Airlines dans l'Est de l’Ukraine ce jeudi.
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  31. Donezker Behörden befürchten Schlag Kiews auf Absturzstelle malaysischer Boeing...

    Die Behörden der selbsternannten Volksrepublik Donezk im Osten der Ukraine, auf deren Territorium die malaysische Boeing zerschellte, befürchten einen Schlag der Kiewer Armee auf die Absturzstelle. Das teilte Sergej Kawtaradse, Vertreter des Donezker Regierungschefs und Mitglied des Donezker Sicherheitsrates, am Donnerstag RIA Novosti telefonisch mit.

    „Nach uns vorliegenden nachrichtendienstlichen Informationen wird die Kiewer Luftwaffe in nächster Zeit einen Bombenangriff auf die Absturzstelle fliegen, um die Indizien zu vernichten“, betonte der Sprecher. „Wir ersuchen die internationale Gemeinschaft, die Kiewer Machthaber zu beeinflussen und zur Einstellung aller Kampfhandlungen im Raum der Absturzstelle der Boeing zu zwingen“, sagte Kawtaradse.

    Zuvor hatten die Behörden der benachbarten selbsternannten Republik Lugansk behauptet, dass die malaysische Boeing von einem ukrainischen Kampfjet abgeschossen worden war. „Augenzeugen sollen gesehen haben, wie die Passagiermaschine von einem ukrainischen Jet angegriffen wurde. Darauf zerbrach die Boeing in zwei Teile, die Trümmer gingen auf dem Territorium der benachbarten Republik Donezk nieder.“ „Nach der Attacke wurde der ukrainische Kampfjet selbst abgeschossen und stürzte ebenfalls auf dem Territorium der Donezker Republik im Raum der Siedlung Krasny Lutsch ab. Nach den Trümmern der Maschine wird gesucht“, hieß es.

  32. Telephone conversation with US President Barack Obama....

    In line with a previous agreement, Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with President of the United States Barack Obama.

    The parties had a detailed discussion of the crisis in Ukraine. Vladimir Putin reiterated the need for an immediate unconditional cessation of hostilities by both sides in the southeast of Ukraine, which has already led to numerous casualties and has forced hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians to seek refuge in Russia. He stressed the inadmissibility of opening fire at Russia’s territory by the Ukrainian army, which led to casualties among Russian citizens.

    The President of Russia briefed his American counterpart on the measures taken by Russia to resume consultations by the contact group with the participation of representatives from southeast Ukraine. Hope was expressed that the American side will also contribute to the start of peace talks in Ukraine.

    This, in part, is the purpose of Russia’s initiative to bring OSCE observers to Russian-Ukrainian border points as soon as possible.

    Vladimir Putin expressed his disappointment with the new contentious decision made by Washington to introduce so-called sectoral sanctions that would be detrimental to both bilateral ties and to efforts to find a compromise in resolving the crisis in Ukraine.

    The parties also exchanged views on the situation in the Middle East.

    Vladimir Putin shared his impressions of the main outcome of his trip to Latin America and of the BRICS summit.

    The Russia leader informed the US President of the report received from air traffic controllers immediately prior to their conversation about the crash of a Malaysian airplane over the Ukrainian territory.

  33. Lufthansa, Transaero say diverting transit flights from Ukrainian airspace....

    Following the mysterious crash of a Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 in the very east of Ukraine on Thursday, Germany’s flag carrying airline Lufthansa has taken a decision to divert all of its flights from Ukrainian airspace.

    Reuters said the decision took effect immediately.

    At the same time, Russia’s number two airline, Transaero, said in an official statement its flights to third countries would be performed bypassing Ukrainian territory.......

  34. Des témoins rapportent que sur le lieu du crash du Boeing 777, des parties de l’appareil sont en flammes, des fragments des corps des passagers et leurs effets personnels ont été dispersés à travers le village de Hrabovo, où l’avion de ligne s’est écrasé....

    Au Conseil de sécurité de la République Populaire autoproclamée de Donetsk, il a été indiqué que des habitants locaux avaient été affectés par l’accident.

    Le premier vice-Premier ministre de la République Populaire de Donetsk, Andriy Pourguin, a indiqué que les premiers bataillons des milices locales étaient déjà sur place.

    Il a déclaré que les enregistreurs de vol du Boeing qui s’est écrasé seraient transmis à Moscou pour examen. Le Comité d'aviation intergouvernemental (MAK) st prêt à participer à l’enquête sur le crash du Boeing 777................Lire la suite:

  35. Boeing/crash: les avions de plusieurs pays contourneront l'Ukraine...

    Les avions de plusieurs pays contourneront l'Ukraine suite au crash jeudi d'un Boeing malaisien avec 295 personnes à bord dans la région de Donetsk où l'armée du pays cherche à réprimer une révolte populaire.

    Les autorités françaises ont notamment appelé les compagnies aériennes nationales à éviter l'espace aérien ukrainien. "Après le crash d'un avion de ligne malaisien dans l'est de l’Ukraine, Frédéric Cuvillier a donné instruction à la Direction générale de l'aviation civile (DGAC) de prendre les mesures de précaution nécessaires. Il demande aux compagnies françaises d'éviter d'emprunter l'espace aérien ukrainien tant que les raisons de cette catastrophe ne seront pas clarifiées", a indiqué le ministère français de l'Ecologie, du Développement durable et de l'Energie.

    La compagnie aérienne Lufthansa a annoncé son intention d'effectuer les vols en contournant l'Ukraine.

    Les compagnies aériennes russes Aeroflot et Transaero et la compagnie Turkish Airlines ont déclaré que leurs avions emprunteront les espaces aériens de pays tiers pour éviter l'Ukraine.

    La compagnie kazakhe Air Astana a suspendu les vols reliant Almaty à Kiev pour 24 heures à partir du 18 juillet...................

  36. Au moins quatre Français se trouvaient à bord du Boeing 777 de Malaysia Airlines qui s'est écrasé dans l'est de l'Ukraine, selon le ministre des Affaires étrangères Laurent Fabius, selon plusieurs médias....

    Les sources gouvernementales belges parlaient précédemment de deux citoyens de leur pays qui auraient réservé des sièges à bord de ce vol.

    En outre l’information sur 23 citoyens américains à bord de l’avion vient d’être confirmée.
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  37. Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott on Friday called Russia's response to the downing of a Malaysian Airlines jet over Ukraine "deeply, deeply unsatisfactory"....

    YDNEY: Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott on Friday called Russia's response to the downing of a Malaysian Airlines jet over Ukraine "deeply, deeply unsatisfactory".

    "I have to tell you that the initial response of the Russian ambassador was to blame Ukraine for this, and I have to say that this is deeply, deeply unsatisfactory," he said, saying the crash was "not an accident, but a crime".

    The Boeing 777 came down on Thursday, killing all 298 on board, including 28 Australians, and Abbott said it appeared that Russian-backed rebels were responsible.

    "We all know that there are problems in Ukraine," he said.

    "We also know who is very substantially to blame for those problems, and the idea that Russia can somehow say that none of this has anything to do with them because it happened in Ukrainian airspace, frankly, does not stand up to any serious scrutiny.

    "I want to say to the Australian people that as far as I am concerned, when you have a situation where Russian-backed rebels appear to have killed Australians using -- it may well turn out to be Russian-supplied heavy weaponry -- Australia takes a very dim view indeed and we want the fullest possible investigation."

    He added that if Russia wanted to "maintain any international standing at all" it must fully cooperate in any investigation.

    "No prevarication, no excuses, no blame shifting, no protecting of people who may be backed by Russia who may have been involved in this terrible event."

    - AFP/nd

  38. Insurance on the Malaysian airliner brought down over Ukraine is likely to pay out relatively quickly if the cause of the crash is determined, but observers say settling insurance for the loss of 298 lives and other liability could be complex and lengthy.....

    Malaysia Airlines said flight MH-17 disappeared at 2:15 p.m. GMT as it flew over eastern Ukraine toward the Russian border, bound for Asia. Flight tracking data indicated it was cruising at 33,000 feet when it lost contact with air traffic controllers, apparently struck by a missile.

    It should be fairly easy for investigators to determine whether the plane was hit by a missile or blew up for some other reason, said Robert Cohn, an aviation attorney and partner at Hogan Lovells in Washington, D.C.

    "Then the interesting issue is who do you go after as the malefactors?" he said. "Are you going to sue a rebel?"

    Ukraine accused "terrorists" – separatist militants fighting in Ukraine's east – of shooting down the Boeing 777 with a Soviet-era SA-11 ground-to-air missile as it flew from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.

    Leaders of the pro-Russian Donetsk People's Republic rebels denied any involvement, although around the same time their military commander said his forces had downed a Ukrainian transport plane.
    Insurance Cover

    Which insurers are on the hook for losses, which are usually spread across a wide number of players, depends on whether the downing is considered to have been due to a hostile act.

    AGCS, a division of Germany's Allianz, is the lead reinsurer covering the aircraft, which London-based insurance broker Aon has valued at about $97.3 million. AGCS is also the lead liability reinsurer for Malaysian Airlines, the company said in a statement.

    "(But) if reports that the plane was shot down are verified, the aircraft loss will be borne by the niche aviation war market, which has recently been pummeled by a series of losses," Barclays bank said in a research note.

    Fighting at the Tripoli Airport in Libya this week saw $200 million to $400 million in damages to aircraft, the bank said.

    Atrium Underwriting Group leads the war policy covering Malaysia Airlines, Barclays said. An Atrium spokesman declined to comment.

    Reinsurance cover for airline fleets is usually split between several of the sector's leading companies, which include Munich Re, Swiss Re and Hannover Re.

    Hannover Re said it shared some of the reinsurance coverage for the aircraft but declined to offer details.

    "In view of the high number of casualties, it would not be appropriate to release numbers now," a Hannover Re spokesman said..................

  39. The Russian military said Friday a Ukrainian combat jet was detected flying close to the Malaysian passenger plane shortly before it crashed in eastern Ukraine killing all 298 people on board....

    "An altitude gain was detected for a Ukrainian combat jet, supposedly a Su-25, flying at a distance of 3-5 kilometers [1.8-3.1 miles] from the Boeing", said Lt. Gen. Andrei Kartapolov, the head of the General Staff's Main Operational Directorate. “The Su-25 can fly at altitudes of up to 10 km. It is armed with P-60 air-to-air missiles that can hit targets at a distance of up to 12 km and reliably within 5 km.”

    “This is borne out by the video footage obtained by the Rostov monitoring center. We would like to know why the Ukrainian plane was flying along a civilian route on the same flight path as the Malaysian Boeing,” Kartapolov said.

    The Boeing began losing speed 51 km from border with Russia, Rostov air traffic controllers said.

    The Russian Defense Ministry has satellite images showing the position of Ukrainian air defense systems before the crash of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 passenger plane in eastern Ukraine on July 17, Kartapolov noted. “We have satellite images of certain Ukrainian army air defence systems in the south-east of the country,” he said.
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  40. Bloomberg: Kiev no dio información completa para los vuelos sobre el este del país....

    .....Thomas Haueter, exjefe del departamento de investigación de accidentes aéreos del Consejo Nacional de Seguridad en el Transporte de EE.UU., considera que si las autoridades de aviación de Ucrania proporcionaran más información sobre la posible amenaza, las aeronaves civiles evitarían vuelos sobre la región.

    Sin datos fiables sobre la seguridad de la ruta los transportistas aéreos a menudo vuelan al azar, observó el experto. "Si los pilotos tuvieran la información sobre el posible peligro y cómo es de serio, eso podría influir en su decisión de volar sobre esta área", añade él.

    Por su parte, el viceprimer ministro de Ucrania, Vladímir Groysman, al comentar acerca de las acusaciones declaró que esta versión es infundada y tales opiniones de expertos no tienen nada que ver con la realidad, señala el medio.

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  41. Malaysia to Declare Mourning When Crash Victims Repatriated - Prime Minister...

    Malaysia will declare a day of mourning when the bodies of the Malaysia Airlines plane crash victims are repatriated, Malaysian newspaper The Star Online reported Friday, citing a statement by Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak.

    “We will declare the day as a day of mourning for the whole country and I'm hoping to be there to receive the Malaysian bodies when they arrive,” Razak was quoted as saying by The Star Online.

    The prime minister said he had expressed his condolences to Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte and the people of the Netherlands when he met Rutte during a working visit on Thursday.

    The newspaper noted that the two prime ministers were dedicated to working together at the crash site.

    “I also wanted to make this visit to show our seriousness in finding out what really happened. We need to know the truth,” Razak said, according to the newspaper.

    Razak also praised the Dutch authorities’ organization of a formal ceremony to receive the victims’ remains when they arrived last week from Ukraine. He said that without the bodies repatriated it would be hard for those grieving to find closure......................

  42. MH17: les boîtes noires n'ont pas révélé de "conversation inquiétante"...

    D'après une première analyse des boîtes noires de l'avion MH17 de la Malaysia Airlines, abattu le 17 juillet dans l'est de l'Ukraine, le pilote n'a abordé aucun sujet inquiétant dans le cockpit. Il n'y a rien de particulier à signaler, a indiqué une source proche de l'enquête à l'édition dominicale du journal malaisien New Straits Times.

    L'organisme britannique chargé d'enquêter sur les accidents aériens (AAIB) a analysé les conversations enregistrées entre le pilote et les contrôleurs aériens. "De ce que nous avons pu écouter jusqu'à présent, il n'y a rien de particulier à signaler. La dernière voix à avoir été enregistrée n'était pas celle du pilote. Toutefois, nous n'avons entendu aucun élément qui permette de savoir si les pilotes ont vu ou entendu quelque chose de suspect", a précisé cette source.

    Ce qui a provoqué le crash, vraisemblablement une roquette tirée par les insurgés prorusses, a donc dû se dérouler très rapidement, conclut le journal.


  43. Crash en Ukraine: «Pas de conversation inquiétante dans le cockpit»...

    D’après une première analyse des boîtes noires de l’avion MH17 de la Malaysia Airlines, abattu le 17 juillet dans l’est de l’Ukraine, le pilote n’a abordé aucun sujet inquiétant dans le cockpit. Il n’y a rien de particulier à signaler, a indiqué une source proche de l’enquête à l’édition dominicale du journal malaisien New Straits Times.

    L’organisme britannique chargé d’enquêter sur les accidents aériens (AAIB) a analysé les conversations enregistrées entre le pilote et les contrôleurs aériens. « De ce que nous avons pu écouter jusqu’à présent, il n’y a rien de particulier à signaler. La dernière voix à avoir été enregistrée n’était pas celle du pilote. Toutefois, nous n’avons entendu aucun élément qui permette de savoir si les pilotes ont vu ou entendu quelque chose de suspect », a précisé cette source.

    Ce qui a provoqué le crash, vraisemblablement une roquette tirée par les insurgés prorusses, a donc dû se dérouler très rapidement, conclut le journal.

  44. Russia believes NATO Secretary General trying to influence Boeing tragedy investigation....

    BRUSSELS, August 4. /ITAR-TASS/. NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen is trying to pressure the investigation of the Malaysian Boeing crash in Ukraine by stating in an interview about the alleged evidence of someone’s complicity in this tragedy. Russia’s permanent delegation to NATO gave such an assessment on Monday.

    “NATO Secretary General decided not to wait for the MH17 crash investigation to end, but to exert pressure on it,” a comment by the delegation says.

    Chair of the State Duma’s Committee for International Affairs Alexei Pushkov has also criticized the statements by Anders Fogh Rasmussen.

    “If Rasmussen had convincing evidence of militia’s fault for the downed Boeing, he would provide it,” Pushkov said in his Twitter. “However, he does not have anything but rhetoric.” “It would be better if Rasmussen explained why in Libya, after NATO’s ‘victory’, a bloody chaos came, and now the whole world and his wife is fleeing such ‘democracy’,” the lawmaker added.

    Statements of NATO Secretary General

    On Sunday, in an interview to French newspaper Midi Libre, Anders Fogh Rasmussen named the separatists guilty of what has happened. NATO Secretary General characterized the July 17 tragedy as a military crime.

    “We have numerous data that indicate that the guilty separatists supported by Russia,” he stressed. “While I support the conduct full and independent international investigation to establish the facts,” Fogh Rasmussen added. He declined to comment on what kind of information pointing to the guilt of one or another party was available to NATO.

    NATO headquarters declined to elaborate on the matter citing policies that do not allow commenting intelligence data..............................

  45. L'équipe chargée du rapatriement des corps a repris son travail de recherche mardi matin sur le lieu du crash du vol MH17, dans l'est de l'Ukraine, a annoncé un porte-parole de la mission....

    Les experts néerlandais, australiens et malaisiens poursuivent leurs recherches dans le village de Petropavlivka et ses environs. Le village, de même qu'une autre localité, aurait dû être inspecté lundi, mais le travail de l'équipe a été retardé en raison de l'insécurité régnante. Si les conditions de sécurité le permettent mardi, les experts tenteront également de continuer la mission au nord de l'entité. L'Organisation pour la sécurité et la coopération en Europe (OSCE) a indiqué que ce convoi d'experts était composé de 110 spécialistes et de 17 véhicules. L'objectif premier de la délégation reste la recherche des restes humains, a encore souligné l'OSCE. Le 17 juillet dernier, un Boeing de la compagnie Malaysia Airlines avait été abattu par un missile au dessus d'une zone contrôlée par des séparatistes pro-russes, avec 298 personnes à son bord, dont 193 Néerlandais et 28 Australiens. L'avion MH17 assurait la liaison entre Amsterdam et Kuala Lumpur. (Belga) ...............

  46. Netherlands suspends search operation at MH17 crash site in Ukraine...

    Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte said it was dangerous for international specialists to remain in the region where the security situation is deteriorating

    About 80 international specialists earlier arrived at the crash site, including eight members of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission, and experts from the Netherlands and Australia.

    On July 31, at their meeting in Minsk, officials from Ukraine, the OSCE and Russia, and representatives of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic agreed to cease fire within the humanitarian corridor used by OSCE monitors to access the crash site.

    In the first several days after the accident, members of the local militias found fragments of more than 200 bodies at the crash site. All of them were taken to the Netherlands for identification.

    Australian and Dutch experts are looking for the remains of the passengers and their personal belongings to be shipped to the Netherlands. This may take several weeks.

    The expert mission consists of 332 members who are to be joined shortly by 68 Malaysian policemen. Up to 100 people will be working at the crash site daily but they will not be conducting the investigation or collecting evidence...........................

    1. Le Premier ministre néerlandais, Mark Rutte, a suspendu la recherche des restes de victimes du crash de l’avion de la Malaysia Airlines en Ukraine orientale...

      Il dit avoir pris cette décision en pensant que ce n’était pas le moment de poursuivre une telle opération du fait des problèmes de sécurité touchant la région où s’est produit l’accident.

      Rutte a promis que les recherches seraient reprises dès que possible.

      Le Boeing reliant Amsterdam à Kuala Lumpur s’est écrasé le 17 juillet dernier. A bord se trouvaient 298 personnes. Il n’y a aucun survivant.
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  47. El Pentágono admite uso de redes sociales en la investigación del siniestro del MH17...

    El teniente general Michael Flynn, director de la Agencia de Inteligencia de Defensa (DIA), ha reconocido el papel decisivo jugado por los mensajes en las redes sociales en la investigación de las causas del colapso del Boeing malasio en el este de Ucrania, informa 'The Wall Street Journal'.

    "Los primeros datos acerca de quién, cuándo y dónde fue derribado fueron todos ellos recibidos a través de redes sociales (…) Todo ello se hizo en pocos minutos [después de la catástrofe]", admitió el general en una entrevista en la citada publicación.

    Minutos después del accidente del Boeing el pasado 17 de julio, relata 'The Wall Street Journal', un analista rusófono de la Agencia leyó un mensaje en la red social rusa VKontakte redactado en nombre de un voluntario de la milicia popular local en el que supuestamente este anunciaba haber destruido un avión de carga ucraniano.

    Según informa el citado diario, no todos los funcionarios estadounidenses están de acuerdo en dar credibilidad a lo publicado en las redes sociales. "La fiabilidad y exactitud son problemas de las redes sociales (…) Nos proporcionan espacio para la búsqueda, pero no debemos considerarlos como el estándar de oro", afirmó un funcionario estadounidense no citado por su nombre.

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  48. Ukrainian security forces have found evidence that independence-seeking insurgents in the east were "plotting a terror act" against a plane of Russia's Aeroflot airline, a top security official said Thursday....

    "During the investigation of a terror attack against Malaysian Boeing, Ukrainian law enforcement and intelligence agencies found that on July 17, on day of Boeing crash, the military mercenaries were planning to carry out a terrorist attack against the Aeroflot aircraft," Valentin Nalivaichenko, the head of the Ukrainian Security Service, told reporters.

    Nalivaichenko said the terror attack was planned against a plane en route from Moscow to Lanarca, Cyprus, whose course was close to the flight path of the crashed Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17.

    He did not specify the evidence, but said the attack on the Russian plane was aimed at "creating a pretext for Russia's invasion in Ukraine."

    MH17, a Boeing 777 jetliner en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, crashed in eastern Ukraine on July 17, killing all 298 people on board.

    The crash was shrouded in mystery amid suspicions that it was shot down by a missile. The Ukrainian government and insurgents in the country's east have traded barbs, accusing each other of being responsible for the tragedy.

    1. L'Ukraine a rendu publique une « nouvelle » version du crash du Boeing....

      Le chef du service de sécurité d'Ukraine Valentin Nalivaïtchenko a déclaré que la Russie s'était proposée d'abattre l'avion de la compagnie aérienne russe Aeroflot « pour justifier l'invasion » de l'Ukraine, mais avait détruit par erreur le Boeing 777 de Malaisya Airlines.

      Selon lui, « l'avion suivait le même corridor à peu près à la même heure que le Boeing malaisien ».

      Le vol MH17 a été abattu le 17 juillet dans l'est de l'Ukraine. Kiev a accusé les miliciens. Ceux-ci ont déclaré ne pas disposer de moyens d'abattre un avion à une telle altitude. L'enquête menée par le ministère de la Défense de Russie a confirmé la version des miliciens.
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  49. Western countries at the UN Security Council have blocked Russia-suggested draft statement calling for the obsevance of a ceasefire at the Malaysian Boeing airliner's crash site in Ukraine, Russia's UN Ambassador Vitaly Churkin told journalidts on Thursday....

    "It (the draft statement) was blocked in a typical manner," the diplomat said. According to him, Lithuania, the United States, and Australia started suggesting unacceptable amendments for introduction to the text. Churkin recalled that the discontinuance of the ceasefire in the area of the airliner's crash site was a direct breach of the UNSC resolution.

  50. Malaysian Defence Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said Saturday that it was impossible that an air-to-air missile was used to take down the MH17 flight, according to the report of The Star, a Malaysian English-language newspaper....

    "It was a surface-to-air missile and in that area, such a system could be available to the Ukrainian side or the rebel forces," Hishammuddin added.

    Previously there were reports saying that the U.S. intelligence analyst had concluded that the aircraft was brought down by an air- to-air missile, which was related to the Ukrainian government.

  51. The U.S. government "knows a lot more" than it's letting on about the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 crash and is "likely hiding [the] truth," according to former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas)....

    In an Aug. 7 post on his news site, Voices of Liberty, Paul said he believes the U.S., with all its intelligence-gathering capabilities, should have a clear idea of what happened on July 17 when MH17 was shot down over Ukraine, killing all 298 people on board. But much of that information, he says, has likely been withheld from the public.

    "The U.S. government has grown strangely quite on the accusation that it was Russia or her allies that brought down the Malaysian airliner with a buck anti-aircraft missile [sic]," the former GOP presidential candidate wrote. "The little that we have heard from U.S. intelligence is that it has no evidence that Russia was involved. Yet the war propaganda were successful in convincing the American public that it was all Russia’s fault.".....................

  52. Vol MH17: Kerry "exige justice pour ce crime impensable"...

    Le secrétaire d'Etat américain, John Kerry, a "exigé" mardi que la "justice" soit rendue pour le crash en Ukraine du vol MH17 probablement abattu en juillet par des séparatistes prorusses.

    En visite à Sydney, M. Kerry a fustigé un "crime impensable", désignant, mais sans les nommer, les insurgés de l'est de l'Ukraine, présumés armés par la Russie.

    Le Boeing de Malaysia Airlines assurant la liaison Amsterdam-Kuala Lumpur a été abattu le 17 juillet par un missile pendant qu'il survolait l'Est de l'Ukraine.

    La catastrophe aérienne a fait 298 morts au total, dont 193 Néerlandais, 44 Malaisiens et 38 Australiens. Kiev et les Occidentaux accusent les rebelles, prétendument équipés par les Russes, d'avoir tiré le missile tandis que Moscou et les insurgés montrent Kiev du doigt.

    "Nous affirmons à l'Australie et au monde que nous exigeons de manière absolue la justice pour ce crime impensable", a martelé M. Kerry lors d'une conférence de presse à Sydney. "C'est inconcevable (...) Nous ne voulons pas que ce genre de choses se répète", a-t-il dit.

    Il a réclamé une "enquête complète pour légitimer les actions qui seront menées" par la suite.

    Sans nommer la Russie, il a expliqué que les Etats-Unis disposaient d"'images" satellites des armes utilisées pour abattre l'avion.

    "Il n'y a vraiment pas de mystère sur l'origine de ces armes", a accusé le ministre américain.

    Drapeaux en berne, l'Australie avait observé jeudi dernier une journée de deuil national à la mémoire de ses 38 ressortissants, dont des enfants, décédés dans la destruction de l'avion.

    RTBF avec agences

  53. Flight recorders data from Malaysian crashed Boeing sent to countries concerned...

    The minister said the Netherlands would publish a report on the tragedy in early September..........

    1. Данные "черных ящиков" Boeing-777 переданы властям стран, чьи граждане погибли в крушении....

      Предварительный доклад о содержимом двух "черных ящиков" с разбившегося в Донецкой области малайзийского Boeing-777 был направлен правительствам тех стран, чьи граждане погибли в катастрофе".

      Об этом сообщил министр транспорта Малайзии Лиоу Тионг Лай.

      Он также отметил, что в начале сентября Нидерланды, как ожидается, опубликуют доклад о произошедшей трагедии................

  54. Pour le moment, Moscou n'a pas reçu d'explications intelligibles de Kiev sur les raisons pour lesquelles il s'abstient de fournir les enregistrements des conversations entre ses contrôleurs aériens et les pilotes qui survolaient la région du crash du Boeing malaisien, a déclaré lundi le chef de la diplomatie russe Sergueï Lavrov...

    "Aucune explication intelligible sur les raisons pour lesquelles la partie ukrainienne s'abstient de fournir jusqu'à présent les enregistrements des conversations de contrôleurs aériens de Dniepropetrovsk avec tous les appareils aériens qui survolaient cette région (du crash du Boeing malaisien, ndlr), ne nous a été donnée", a déploré le ministre russe des Affaires étrangères.
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  55. USA to put pressure on Malaysia to silence reasons of Boeing crash....

    Malaysia said that it will be forced to repeatedly send its experts to the crash site of Malaysia Airlines Boeing in Ukraine. To put it in a nutshell, Malaysia is strongly dissatisfied with the course of investigation and is forced to conduct its own investigation, in an attempt to restore the picture of what happened to its airplane in the sky above Ukraine.

    Most likely, the story of the downed plane will be hidden away carefully. For those, who more or less understand the situation, it is clear that neither the militia nor Russia were involved in the terrible disaster.

    The only question is whether Ukraine incidentally shot down the Boeing or it was a carefully planned, but an ineptly executed act of provocation.

    Given that according to available information, the plane was at first shot at in the air, and then finished off with a missile, occasionally is practically excluded. Photos of Buk missile systems, supposedly owed by militia, appeared instantly. A stray provocateur in Donetsk, a couple of days before the disaster, hinted that the militia owned Buk complexes. Boeing's fate had been decided in advance.....................

  56. Politics have no place in the search for truth about the Malaysian Airlines Boeing jet crash over Ukraine, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov was quoted as saying in an interview with the magazine International Life, posted on the Foreign Ministry website on Thursday....

    “Our interest is to find the truth,” the report said.

    “We do not seek to consider closely each episode in the political vein,” the report continued, adding that “We do not have a biased attitude over which experts and specialists will be able to deal with this issue. It is essentially important for us that our representatives are included.”

  57. Crash du vol MH17: un premier rapport publié mardi aux Pays-Bas...

    Un premier rapport sur les circonstances de la chute du Boeing du vol MH17 en Ukraine à la mi-juillet sera publié mardi, a indiqué jeudi le bureau d'enquête néerlandais pour la sécurité, chargé de l'enquête internationale.

    Ce rapport, intérimaire, "présentera des informations factuelles basées sur les sources disponibles aux enquêteurs", a indiqué le Bureau d'enquête néerlandais pour la sécurité (OVV) dans un communiqué.......AFP......

  58. Preliminary results of the Malaysian Boeing crash in eastern Ukraine will be published on September 9, the Dutch security council said on Thursday....

    The Malaysian Airlines Boeing crashed on July 17 in Ukraine's Donetsk Region, killing all 298 people on board.

    1. Preliminary report on causes of MH17 disaster to be published in Netherlands....

      Well-informed sources say the document will contain the factual information obtained from accessible sources including onboard flight records and radar stations, as well as satellite imaging and other visual sources.

      The council plans to publish final report within the twelve months after the tragedy that occurred July 17.

      Safety Board official spokeswoman Sara Vernooij told Itar-Tass earlier it was important to realize that preliminary reports and final reports always had definite difference.

      She said Safety Board officials were aware of the hopes that the public quarters, including the media pinned on this document but the problem was that only the first data produced in the course of investigation had been made public.

      This meant that the preliminary report would shed some light on the causes of the tragedy but many questions would remain open, Vernooij said........................

    2. Dutch experts are due to publish the first report into what caused the Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 to crash in eastern Ukraine in July....

      The Dutch Safety Board is leading an international probe to try to piece together evidence on what happened.

      All 298 people on board, most of them from the Netherlands, died when the plane came down, amid reports it was shot down by pro-Russian rebels.

      But the search for evidence has been hampered by heavy fighting in the area.

      The Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it crashed between Krasni Luch in Luhansk region and Shakhtarsk in the region of Donetsk.

      Dutch aviation investigators are relying on information from the black box flight data recorders, air traffic control, satellite images and photos from the scene to compile the preliminary report.

      While it is not the final report into the crash, Tuesday's findings are significant because they will be the first official account of what happened, says the BBC's Anna Holligan in The Hague.

      However, it will not attribute blame or liability for the crash, she adds............

  59. Malaysia to send team to jet crash site in Ukraine...

    KUALA LUMPUR – Malaysia aims to send a search team to the crash site in Ukraine of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 before winter sets in to gather physical evidence to prove that it was shot down, Prime Minister Najib Razak said today (Sept 6).

    Mr Najib said the government has “pretty conclusive” intelligence reports about what happened to the jet carrying 298 people but evidence must be collected so that its downing can be proved beyond a doubt if the case goes to court.

    “That’s why we are very, very keen to re-enter the crash site before winter sets in. We need at least a few weeks not only to search for the body parts of victims but to assemble physical evidence,” Mr Najib said at a joint press conference with visiting Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott.

    “Once that process is completed, we will look at the criminal side, who is responsible for this atrocious crime,” Mr Najib said.....................................

  60. Malaysian defence minister to leave for Ukraine within hours - media...

    SINGAPORE, September 07, /ITAR-TASS/. Malaysia’s government is determined to finish the investigation of the MH17 crash in eastern Ukraine, Malaysian Defence Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said on Sunday.

    According to the New Straits Times newspaper, Hussein is leaving for Kiev within hours. However no details of his Kiev talks have been disclosed.

    “There is no closure until we find justice for MH17. Malaysia demands justice so that those responsible for shooting down MH17 be tried. This requires proof which is being gathered, and accurate information,” the New Straits Times quoted him as saying. “I don’t want to risk our security teams. I want to see for myself whether the safe passage to the crash site is a reality.”

    The minister is also expected to visit Moscow and Amsterdam to discuss the course of the probe into the causes of the Malaysian Boeing crash in July.

    Apart from that, a probe team of 30 Malaysian experts will also leave for Ukraine within hours. However, it is not yet known when they will be able to reach the crash area. Earlier on Sunday, Malaysia’s Minister of Home Affairs Ahmad Zahid Hamidi said the probe team should be back at the MH17 crash site in eastern Ukraine as soon as possible. He said that in several weeks it might already be snowing in the Malaysian Boeing crash area, which would make the fact-finding mission much more difficult.

    An international team of investigators had worked at the Malaysian Boeing crash site for less than a week and had to leave the area on August 6 due to security reasons. Malaysia’s Police Chief Ali Abu Bakar said that the experts had managed to inspect less than half of the crash area. They left without taking any fragments away from the crash site...................

  61. Dutch experts say Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 broke up in mid-air after being hit by "numerous objects" that "pierced the plane at high velocity"....

    A report released by the Dutch Safety Board said there was "no evidence of technical or human error".

    A BBC correspondent says this evidence is consistent with the plane being struck by shrapnel from a missile.

    The plane was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it crashed in rebel-held territory eastern Ukraine in July.

    All 298 people on board, most of them from the Netherlands, died when the plane came down, amid reports it was shot down by pro-Russian rebels.

    Dutch aviation investigators relied on information from the black box flight data recorders, air traffic control, satellite images and photos from the scene to compile the preliminary report...................

  62. Malaysia MH17 tragedy 'avoidable'...Airline boss suggests Malaysian MH17 tragedy could have been avoided...

    The boss of Emirates has told the BBC it would not have flown over Ukraine if the knowledge that high altitude missiles were there had been passed on.

    Sir Tim Clark said there was evidence missiles had been on site for a number of weeks. Emirates did not know that.

    He said though that some carriers did appear to know, but didn't share information.

    Sir Tim added it was likely that every airline would have by-passed the danger zone if they had known.................................

  63. Russia should not allow soft-pedalling the probe of the Malaysian airliner’s crash over Ukraine, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said in an interview with Rossiiskaya Gazeta daily’s multilingual news and information resource Russia Beyond The Headlines for Spanish daily El Pais....

    “We should not allow the inquiry in the details of the MH17 crash to be soft-pedalled as this had already happened to many other Ukrainian tragedies, including the sniper shooting of civilians in Kiev in February, massacres in Odessa (Ukrainian Black Sea port) and Mariupol (a city in the Donetsk region) in May and so on,” the foreign minister said. “We will insist with determination on bringing all who are responsible for these crimes to justice,” he added.

    'Vitally important' to find truth

    The minister recalled that Russia has appealed to conduct an open and unbiased international probe since July 17. “UN Security Council Resolution 2166 adopted on July 21 envisages a comprehensive, detailed and independent investigation under fundamental principles and rules of the International Civil Aviation Organization,” he noted.

    “With due account of a broad international outcry to the tragedy, we believe that conducting this probe is not only vitally important to find true reasons of the air crash and to bring those guilty to account,” Lavrov said. “This also concerns issues of maintaining international peace and security. We call for strict observance of the UN Security Council’s decision under, which the council will keep the developments under control.”

    The Russian foreign minister noted that a horrible tragedy caused by the crash of the Malaysian airliner not only claimed many lives, but was also used for deliberate fuelling of international tension, pressure on different countries and pushing for ‘sectoral’ sanctions on Russia. “We call strongly on all parties to refrain from groundless accusing statements which undermine the foundations of international relations and constitute blatant acts of interference in the investigation,” Lavrov noted.................

    1. Lavrov: "Utilizaron el siniestro del MH17 para promover sanciones contra Rusia"....

      El siniestro del Boeing de Malaysia Airlines en el este de Ucrania fue utilizado para "promover" sanciones contra Rusia, dijo el ministro de Relaciones Exteriores ruso, Serguéi Lavrov, en una entrevista concedida al diario 'El País'..............Texto completo en:

  64. Le crash du Boeing de Maylaisia Airlines dans l'Est de l'Ukraine a été utilisé pour renforcer les sanctions contre la Russie et effectuer une tentative d’augmenter la tension internationale, a indiqué le ministre russe des Affaires étrangères Sergueï Lavrov dans une interview accordée aux journalistes espagnols....

    Lavrov a déclaré que la Russie se prononce pour «le respect strict des décisions du Conseil de sécurité des Nations Unies, d’après lesquels le Conseil a promis de « garder sous contrôle l’évolution de la situation». Les accusations sans fondement contre Moscou ont été qualifiés par le ministre russe des Affaires étrangères «d’ingérence flagrante dans l’enquête».

    Le ministre a rappelé que Moscou appelle à «entamer une enquête internationale ouverte et objective» depuis le 17 juillet, le jour du crash de l’appareil dans la région de Donetsk.
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  65. Une récompense de 30 millions de dollars est promise pour l'information sur les coupables du crash du vol MH17 survenu dans l'Est de l'Ukraine....

    Neuf semaines après qu’une équipe de chercheurs internationaux n'ait fourni aucune information sur la question de savoir qui était responsable de l'accident de l'avion, le détective privé du bureau d'enquête économique Wifka, Josef Resch a annoncé qu'un client, qui a souhaité rester anonyme, avait fixé une récompense.

    L’information sur la recherche de données a été publiée sur le site de Wifka en trois langues : allemand, anglais et russe.

    Ce montant de récompense sera le plus important dans l'histoire, parce que même pour les informations sur la localisation du terroriste Oussama ben Laden, le gouvernement des Etats-Unis avait proposé seulement 25 millions de dollars.
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  66. Le Conseil de sécurité des Nations Unies tiendra une réunion ce vendredi pour enquêter sur le crash du Boeing malaisien dans l'Est de l'Ukraine....

    Le 17 juillet, l’avion de ligne effectuant le vol d'Amsterdam à destination de Kuala Lumpur s’est écrasé dans la région de Donetsk en Ukraine. À la suite de l’accident d’avion, toutes les 298 personnes qui étaient à son bord ont été tuées.
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  67. Final investigation report on Malaysian airliner’s crash to be ready next summer...

    A final report on the results of the investigation into the crash of the Malaysian passenger aircraft in Ukraine two months ago will be presented next summer, Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans said.....

    Speaking at the UN Security Council’s session in New York on Friday, Timmermans said nothing would obstruct the completion of the investigation even the inability to conduct it at the site of the crash in Ukraine’s southeast.

    The top Dutch diplomat also said that the investigation into the crash is independent and no other party has the power to influence it.

    Last week Alexander Lukashevich, a spokesman for the Russian Foreign Ministry, said it seemed that the international commission investigating the crash of the Malaysian airliner in Ukraine had been intentionally dragging out the investigation as a result of pressure from some Western powers...................

  68. Russia Denies Accusations of Discrediting MH17 Crash Probe...

    UNITED NATIONS, September 19 (RIA Novosti) - Russia is not trying to put in doubt the credibility of an international investigation of a Malaysia Airlines passenger plane in eastern Ukraine, Russian Ambassador to the UN Vitaly Churkin said Friday.

    The UN Security Council held a meeting, requested by Russia, to make a fresh assessment of the progress in the investigation.

    "Some of the statements today claimed that Russia is somehow trying to discredit the investigation carried out by the Dutch Safety Board," Churkin said commenting on the results of the meeting.

    "It is completely untrue," he said..................

  69. Ukraine: UN political chief says adverse security conditions hampering full access to crash site ...

    UN, 19 September 2014 – Two months after the crash of a Malaysia Airlines flight over Ukraine that killed 298 people on board, the top United Nations political official updated the Security Council on developments related to the investigation of the incident.

    “While the cease-fire in south-eastern Ukraine, thus far, is holding, contributing to a marked de-escalation on the ground, the conditions are still not conducive for investigators to have full and unfettered access to the site,” said Under-Secretary General for Political Affairs Jeffrey Feltman.

    On 17 July, the Boeing 777 carrying 298 people was en route from Amsterdam to the Malaysian capital, Kuala Lumpur, when it went down in eastern Ukraine, near the Russian border. In the days that followed, the Security Council adopted resolution 2166 (2014) calling for a full, thorough and independent investigation into the incident.

    Today Mr. Feltman briefed the Council on a report released on 9 September by the Dutch Safety Board, which submitted its preliminary findings on the MH-17 accident investigation to the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).

    The report contains the first factual findings based on various sources, including the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder, air traffic control data, as well as radar and satellite images..............

    1. La Russie propose au secrétaire général de l'ONU Ban Ki-moon de créer un poste de représentant spécial pour enquêter sur le crash du Boeing en Ukraine et d’envoyer une mission spéciale vers la zone de l'accident d’avion, a déclaré le Représentant permanent russe auprès de l'ONU, Vitali Tchourkine....

      M. Tchourkine a noté que la Russie avait des questions en ce qui concerne l’enquête sur cet accident d’avion, qu’elle tenterait de soumettre à l’examen de la commission qui étudie les circonstances du crash.

      L’avion de ligne Boeing malaisien s'est écrasé le 17 juillet dans la région de Donetsk. Tous les passagers et membres d'équipage ont été tués.
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  70. Malaysia to seek justice for MH17 victims via UN General Assembly....

    Malaysian Defense Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said Saturday that Malaysia would use the platform of the UN General Assembly in New York next week to seek justice for the victims of the MH17 tragedy, according to the report of Bernama, Malaysia's state news agency.

    Hishammuddin said Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak, who would address the assembly, would raise the matter with several leaders he would meet in New York, including U.S. President Barack Obama, Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott and Netherlands Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

    "We are on the right platform to demand justice and bring to book those responsible for downing the aircraft. No one can deny us this right. Let's wait for the developments at the United Nations," he added.

    The minister also said they would make efforts to search for the missing MH370 flight until it was found.

  71. Kiev not naming concrete schedule for experts to enter Boeing crash site — Malaysian PM.....

    The Ukrainian government could not provide a concrete schedule when international experts could enter the Boeing crash site in eastern Ukraine, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said after meeting with his Ukrainian counterpart Arseniy Yatsenyuk in New York.

    “Kiev cannot give us any guarantees, including on the date of access, and we have to depend on them. According to Yatsenyuk, armed clashes still continue in the area, that’s why it is impossible to get to the crash site,” Mr. Najib said on Wednesday.

    Asked whether Malaysia could initiate talks with self-defense militias to allow safe passage of the team, Najib said a “communication line” is still open but Kiev’s sensitivity should be taken into consideration.

    The Malaysian prime minister stressed that international experts should get to the site ahead of the winter season that could affect the forensic evidence. He also expressed concerns over unclaimed remains of passengers and the crew of the crashed plane................

  72. La Malaisie prévoit de demander à l'ONU d'envoyer des soldats de la paix à l'Est de l'Ukraine pour assurer la sécurité du groupe d'experts internationaux qui étudient les causes de l'accident de l’avion de ligne malaisien qui s’est écrasé dans la région de Donetsk, a déclaré samedi le ministre malaisien des Transports Liow Tiong Lai....

    Jeudi le 25 septembre, le président d'Ukraine Piotr Porochenko a déclaré lors de sa première grande conférence de presse qu’il n’excluait pas l'introduction des troupes de maintien de la paix dans le pays.
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  73. Time running out for work at MH17 crash site as winter nears — minister...

    SINGAPORE, September 29. /ITAR-TASS/. Investigators looking into the Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crash over the embattled eastern Ukraine have less than a month left to gather evidence, Malaysian Transport Minister Datuk Seri Liow Tiong Lai said on Monday.

    “The probe team must be able to gain access to the site before all evidence is covered by snow,” the Star newspaper quoted the minister as saying.

    He said the team could not reach the site due to continuous fighting between the Ukrainian government forces and militias. “We are working hard and making efforts to persuade both parties to follow the ceasefire treaty,” he added.

    A team of 30 Malaysian experts arrived in Ukraine on September 8 to continue gathering evidence as well as search for remains of crash victims. However, they have failed to get to the crash site as of yet.

    If the situation does not improve, search at the site will be postponed till next year, Malaysian Police Chief Khalid Abu Bakar said. .......................

  74. Russia urges probe into military flights and missile launches in area of Boeing crash...

    Russia has submitted a list of recommendations to the United Nations concerning the investigation into the crash of the Malaysian Boeing in Ukraine. The recommendations given in a letter signed by Russian representative at the United Nations Vitaly Churkin have been released on the UN website on Monday.

    The letter envisages ten tasks of priority importance, including analysis of flights of military aircraft in the area of the armed conflict in the east of Ukraine and in the area of the crash site and obtaining and checking information from the Ukrainian side about planned or already launched missiles for training and combat purposes......................

  75. Ukraine’s services tried to get to Boeing crash site to forge evidence — Russia DefMin...

    The Russian Defense Ministry has offered a firm response to statements by the chief of Ukraine's National Security Service Valentin Nalivaychenko, who has been trying to persuade the international commission to accept his version of the Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 crash over east Ukraine in July 2014.

    “One cannot but feel angry about yet another attempt by the chief of a Ukrainian secret service to use absolutely groundless allegations in a bid to persuade the public at large about Russian military’s involvement in the Boeing crash in the skies over Ukraine,” Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said.

    “I would like to recall that the commanders of the so-called ‘anti-terrorist’ operation in the south-east of Ukraine, including Nalivaychenko himself, did their utmost at the end of August to prevent an international inquiry from visiting the site of the plane’s crash,” Konahsenkov said.

    He pointed out that it had been Ukrainian troops, with Nalivaychenko's approval and contrary to Kiev’s official statements about the suspension of hostilities, launched a massive offensive against militias near Torez, using multiple rocket launchers Uragan, Grad and Smerch in order to eliminate the existing material evidence...................

  76. Crash du Boeing/version sur la complicité de la Russie : le ministère russe de la Défense exprime son indignation à Kiev...

    Le ministère russe de la Défense s’est dit indigné par la version des autorités de Kiev, selon laquelle les militaires russes seraient impliqués dans la catastrophe du Boeing, qui s’est écrasé dans la région de Donetsk, a indiqué aux journalistes le porte-parole du ministère, le major-général Igor Konachenkov.

    Le porte-parole du ministère russe de la Défense a également déclaré que l’enquête sur le crash du Boeing en Ukraine est menée non pas par des experts qualifiés, mais par des enquêteurs inexpérimentés du Service de sécurité de l'Ukraine.
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  77. Kiev seeks access to MH17 site to back ‘prefabricated’ crash version – Moscow...

    Ukrainian Security Service seeks to reach the crash site of the Malaysian MH17 flight to fabricate at least some evidence which will allow Kiev to conceal the true causes of the catastrophe from the world, said Russia’s Defense ministry.

    “One cannot but feel angry about yet another attempt by the Ukrainian security service chief to use absolutely groundless allegations in a bid to persuade the public of alleged Russian military involvement in the Boeing disaster in the skies over Ukraine,” Defense Ministry official representative, Major General Igor Konashenkov, said on Wednesday.

    He referred to claims that were earlier made by Ukraine’s National Security Service Head Valentin Nalivaychenko speaking on Ukraine's Channel 5 about Kiev’s “full understanding” of the causes of the Malaysian Boeing's crash.

    Nalivaychenko claimed that Ukrainian investigators and international experts now must visit the site of the crash only to search for “what is still missing” to back the Kiev’s version of events.

    The fact that the Ukrainian security chief “fully” understands the details of the crash surprised Konashenkov, especially since the international commission’s investigation has not yet established them. However, the so-called Ukrainian investigators still have to find at least some evidence to somehow support their “full knowledge,” he added...............

  78. Crash du vol MH17 : la version de la mort instantanée des passagers remise en question
    Un passager du Boeing de Malaysia Airlines abattu dans l'est de l'Ukraine a été découvert avec un masque à oxygène, a déclaré le ministre néerlandais des Affaires étrangères Frans Timmermans....

    Selon le quotidien De Volkskrant le ministre a dit notamment : « Savez-vous qu'un passager portait un masque à oxygène ? Il avait donc le temps de le faire. Nous ne pouvons pas l'exclure ».

    De cette façon au moins un passager restait vivant après l'impact extérieur exercé sur l'avion qui a commencé à se disloquer.

    Précédemment les experts ont déclaré que toutes les personnes se trouvant à bord de l'avion avaient immédiatement perdu connaissance et étaient décédés des suites de la dépressurisation...................Lire la suite:

  79. Donetsk ready to grant Ukrainian investigators access to MH17 crash site: Leader...

    The leadership of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) is ready to let Ukrainian investigators visit the Malaysian Airlines plane crash site, DPR Prime Minister Alexander Zakharchenko said Monday.

    “Of course, the number of these experts should be agreed with us. They will be guarded by our forces, and there will be no Dutch police or German paratroopers,” Zakharchenko noted.

    "It is strange that the debris is not being collected. I am not an expert, but it's clear to me that the debris should be collected and studied," Zakharchenko added, noting that interesting information about the crash continues to surface like the fact that a Ukrainian Air Force plane was nearby when the accident happened.

    Earlier it was reported that Dutch and Ukrainian officials have reached an agreement on the Ukrainian search teams to start their work on the site of the MH17 crash on Monday. Ukrainian authorities will then transfer the findings to a Dutch team in the town of Kharkiv......Read more:

  80. Dutch specialists working with personal belongings of MH17 dead passengers in Kharkiv...

    The cargo with personal belongings of dead passengers from the Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 has been delivered to Kharkiv, eastern Ukraine, for an examination, the Kharkiv Region administration’s press service said on Wednesday.

    “The cargo with personal belongings of the dead passengers and their luggage arrived in the Kharkiv region. Dutch specialists, who have arrived in Kharkiv, are working with them in the area of the Malyshev Plant,” the press service said.

    Last Monday rescuers and international experts resumed the search for bodies of the victims and personal belongings of the passengers on the jet crash site in the Donetsk region..............

  81. Ukraine: "Le MH17 a été abattu par les séparatistes pro-russes"...

    C'est le patron des services secrets allemands qui l'affirme : l'avion de la Malaysia Airlines qui s'est écrasé dans l'est de l'Ukraine a été abattu par une roquette lancée par les séparatistes pro-russes. L'info parait ce lundi dans De Spiegel.

    Gerhard Schindler, le président du Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND) a fait cette déclaration devant les membres de la commission parlementaire de contrôle du BND suite aux investigations de ses services.

    Selon lui, les milices séparatistes ont mis la main sur un système de défense anti-aérienne russe Buk appartenant à l'armée ukrainienne. Elles l'ont employé pour abattre le Boeing 777 malaysien le 17 juillet dernier, avec 298 personnes à bord, dont 195 Néerlandais, 4 Allemands et 6 Belges..............

  82. German Intelligence Claims Pro-Russian Separatists Downed MH17...

    In an Oct. 8 presentation given to members of the parliamentary control committee, the Bundestag body responsible for monitoring the work of German intelligence, BND President Gerhard Schindler provided ample evidence to back up his case, including satellite images and diverse photo evidence. The BND has intelligence indicating that pro-Russian separatists captured a BUK air defense missile system at a Ukrainian military base and fired a missile on July 17 that exploded in direct proximity to the Malaysian aircraft, which had been carrying 298 people.

    Unambiguous Findings

    Evidence obtained shortly after the accident suggested the aircraft had been shot down by pro-Russian militants. Both the governments of Russia and Ukraine had mutually accused each other of responsibility for the crash. After a Dutch investigative commission reviewed the flight recorder, it avoided placing any blame for the crash. Some 189 residents of the Netherlands perished in the downing of Flight MH17.

    BND's Schindler says his agency has come up with unambiguous findings. One is that Ukrainian photos have been manipulated and that there are details indicating this. He also told the panel that Russian claims the missile had been fired by Ukrainian soldiers and that a Ukrainian fighter jet had been flying close to the passenger jet were false.

    "It was pro-Russian separatists," Schindler said of the crash, which involved the deaths of four German citizens. A spokesman for the German Federal Prosecutor's Office told SPIEGEL that an investigation has been opened into unknown perpetrators because of the possibility that the crash had been a war crime..............

  83. 284 victims of MH17 crash identified ...

    The Dutch Ministry of Security and Justice announced Friday that a total of 284 victims in the MH17 crash in eastern Ukraine have been identified.

    The progress came after experts identified anther six people last week, of which five were of Dutch nationality. The nationality of the sixth was not made known at the request of the embassies of the other countries concerned.

    In the July 17 tragedy, the 298 passengers and crew members on board the Malaysia Airlines flight were all killed, which means fourteen victims remain unidentified more than three months after the incident..............

  84. Dutch experts begin collecting wreckage from MH17 in Donetsk ...

    A group of Dutch experts on Thursday began collecting wreckage from the site of the Malaysian MH17 plane crash in eastern Ukraine’s Donetsk region, a RIA Novosti correspondent reported.

    Six Dutch experts, guarded by three Dutch policemen, are currently working at the site. Another four employees from the self-proclaimed Dontesk People’s Republic’s Emergencies Ministry, as well as observers from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe are also at the site where the Malaysian MH17 planed carrying 298 people from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur crashed in July.

    They have begun collecting small pieces from the plane and placing them in special containers, the RIA Novosti correspondent said.
    The sounds of artillery fire can be heard in the background, the correspondent reported...............

  85. Work to recover MH17 wreckage suspended after human remains found — ministry ...

    Work to recover the wreckage of doomed Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 has been suspended after investigators have found more human remains at the crash site in eastern Ukraine, the Transport Ministry of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic said on Friday.

    “Several bodies of victims were found there yesterday. It was therefore decided to temporarily suspend work to remove the plane’s wreckage,” spokeswoman Ella Zhuranskaya told TASS. “Dutch investigators, representatives of our republic’s emergencies and transport ministries, and OSCE observers are expected to arrive at the crash site on Sunday, November 9, to continue inspecting the site where the Boeing crashed,” she said.........

    1. Leichenteile gefunden: Bergung von MH17-Trümmern angeblich unterbrochen ...

      Die Untersuchungen durch unabhängige Ermittler am Absturzort von Flug MH17 in der Ostukraine sind angeblich unterbrochen worden. Wie eine Vertreterin der von prorussischen Separatisten ausgerufenen "Volksrepublik Donezk" erklärte, seien weitere Leichenteile gefunden worden. Die Bergung der nach wie vor an der Unglücksstelle verstreuten Trümmer sei deshalb ausgesetzt worden. Man gehe davon aus, die Arbeit am Sonntag wieder aufnehmen zu können..............

  86. Last MH17 victims may never be recovered, as Ukraine bloodshed rises ...

    The remains of the last nine victims of flight MH17 may never be recovered from the Ukrainian battlefield where their plane was downed four months ago, the Dutch foreign minister said on Saturday (Nov 8), as fighting rumbled on in the east of the country.

    Foreign Minister Bert Koenders made the grim assessment in the city of Kharkiv, where he attended a memorial service for five more sets of human remains collected from the site of the disaster and flown to The Netherlands.

    Another ceremony attended by some 1,600 friends and relatives was planned to take place in The Netherlands on Monday.......................

  87. MH17 Dutch memorial day: Victims honoured in Amsterdam ...

    Hundreds of bereaved family members and friends of passengers who died in the Malaysia Airlines MH17 disaster have gathered in the Dutch capital Amsterdam to commemorate the dead.

    Nearly 200 of the plane's 298 victims came from the Netherlands.

    Ukraine and Western countries accuse pro-Russian rebels of shooting the plane down with a Russian-made missile, an accusation which Russia denies.

    The exact cause of the crash in eastern Ukraine has not been established.

    President Vladimir Putin said on Monday that allegations that the rebels were hampering efforts to find out what happened to the plane were "totally unfounded".

    He said that Russia supported a full and impartial investigation into the crash..............

  88. Dutch experts refute accusations of careless MH17 wreckage handling..

    Experts visited on Tuesday the Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crash site in eastern Ukraine, where preparations are underway for removal of remaining plane wreckage by train, Wim van der Weegen, spokesman for the Dutch Safety Board, told media.

    The spokesman could not say how long the process would take. He said Dutch specialist will be very careful in handling the wreckage.

    “We know which exactly parts of the plane we want to get, but we won’t make this information public,” he said. The spokesman said cooperation continued with all interested parties, including with the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE). He did not elaborate further.

    Earlier the transport minister of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, Semyon Kuzmenko, told media that the way Dutch investigators were handling plane wreckage was practically destroying evidence that could help shed the light on the crash of a Malaysian Boeing over Ukraine.

    He also expressed doubt that debris could be safely removed by train, also citing plans to cut some wreckage for the sake of convenient transportation.

    Decision by the Netherlands to remove and reconstruct parts of the plane was announced on November 6. Experts believe this will help investigators looking into the crash.........

  89. Ukraine: accord sur l'évacuation des débris du Boeing malaisien ...

    Un accord a été conclu en vue de l'évacuation des débris du Boeing 777 qui s'est écrasé le 17 juillet dans l'est de l'Ukraine, faisant 298 morts, a annoncé vendredi le ministère néerlandais de la Justice.

    L'évacuation des débris commencera "le plus tôt possible en collaboration avec les services de secours locaux", a indiqué le ministère néerlandais de la Sécurité et de la Justice alors que des combats entre séparatistes et loyalistes font rage dans la région.

    "Demain, une équipe supplémentaire quittera Kharkiv pour Donetsk afin d'apporter un soutien logistique", a ajouté la même source, selon laquelle l'accord avec les services de secours locaux a été conclu sous l'égide de l'OSCE, (Organisation pour la sécurité et la coopération en Europe).................

  90. MH17 flight wreckage removal begins in Ukraine ...

    Work has begun to remove wreckage from the MH17 crash site in rebel-held eastern Ukraine after months of delays, Dutch officials say.

    The Malaysian Airlines plane, which was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, was shot down over Ukraine in July. All 298 people on board were killed.

    Workers could be seen cutting up parts of the plane and using cranes to load them onto lorries.

    Access had previously been limited by rebels and the conflict in Ukraine.

    The recovery operation was expected to take several days, the Dutch Safety Board said, and the debris will be transported to the Netherlands for investigation.

    The wreckage would assist "the investigation into the cause of the crash", the board said in a statement, adding that it intended to reconstruct a section of the aircraft.

    Alexander Kostrubitsky, the emergency services chief in the self-declared Donetsk People's Republic, said that more human remains had been discovered under the wreckage, AP news agency reported.............

  91. Mother of a German national killed in the Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crash in eastern Ukraine has begun legal proceedings against Kiev at the European court, demanding about $1 billion in compensation for her suffering, the Bild reported on Sunday...

    According to the newspaper, the mother of a German victim has submitted her case against Ukraine to the European Court of Human Rights last week.

    The woman argued that Kiev must have closed the country’s airspace during the time of a military conflict. She also stated that the Ukrainian government did not close the country’s airspace only because of millions of US dollars received monthly for foreign flights over the country’s airspace............

  92. MH17: Heikler Satz soll aus Untersuchungsbericht gestrichen worden sein....

    Ist aus dem Zwischenbericht zu Flug MH17 ein womöglich brisanter Satz entfernt worden? Recherchen eines Investigativteams sollen das belegen - sie deuten auf eine Mitverantwortung der Ukraine an der Flugkatastrophe hin.

    Knapp fünf Monate nach dem Abschuss von Flug MH17 gerät die ukrainische Flugsicherung zunehmend unter Druck. Bereits seit Längerem stehen Vorwürfe im Raum, wonach der Luftraum über dem Kampfgebiet im Osten des Landes zwingend vollständig hätte gesperrt werden müssen. Jetzt gibt es Meldungen, wonach aus dem Zwischenbericht zur Absturzursache ein brisanter Satz gestrichen wurde.

    So sei in einer früheren Version des Reports auf den Grund für die teilweise Sperrung des Luftraums hingewiesen worden, berichtet unter anderem die "Süddeutsche Zeitung" (SZ) - das gehe aus Recherchen von WDR, NDR, SZ und dem niederländischen Investigativteam "ARGOS" hervor.

    Hintergrund: Im Absturzgebiet war bereits drei Tage vor der Katastrophe um Flug MH17 eine Militärmaschine auf 6500 Metern Höhe abgeschossen worden. Danach hatte die Ukraine in einer sogenannten NOTAM (Notice to airmen) den Luftraum gesperrt, allerdings nur bis auf eine Höhe von 9750 Metern - etwas unter der üblichen Reiseflughöhe für Passagierflugzeuge.

    Viele Experten meinen, eine vollständige Sperrung des Luftraumes wäre angebracht gewesen. "Mit dem Abschuss der Antonov auf einer Höhe von 6500 Metern war absolut klar, dass das nur mit schweren Flugabwehr-Raketensystemen geschehen konnte", zitiert "" Siemon Wezeman vom Stockholmer Institut für Friedensforschung (SIPRI). "Diese Raketensysteme erreichen normalerweise ohne Probleme Höhen zwischen 10.000 und 13.000 Metern."

    Dieser Argumentation schließt sich auch der Rechtsanwalt Elmar Giemulla an, der Angehörige deutscher MH17-Opfer vertritt....................

  93. Le autorità olandesi hanno rifiutato la richiesta dei parenti delle vittime dello schianto del Boeing malese in Ucraina orientale di trasferire le indagini presso l’ONU, riferisce RIA Novosti...

    I servizi segreti olandesi hanno evidenziato che le indagini non sono condotte solo dagli investigatori olandesi. La squadra comprende i rappresentanti di 11 Paesi, tra cui Malesia, Russia e Ucraina.

    La scorsa settimana i famigliari di 20 vittime hanno aderito alla campagna per il trasferimento delle indagini dalle autorità olandesi alle Nazioni Unite.
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  94. Ermittlungen zu Boeing-Crash: Splitter unbekannter Herkunft in Körpern vieler Insassen ...

    In den Körpern eines Teils der Insassen der am 17. Juli über dem ostukrainischen Gebiet Donezk abgestürzten malaysischen Boeing sind laut dem Sicherheitsdienst der Ukraine (SBU) Metallsplitter unbekannter Herkunft entdeckt worden. Wie die Behörde unter Berufung auf Ermittlungsangaben mitteilte, könnte es sich dabei „um Fragmente der Rakete handeln, die die Maschine getroffen hat“.

    Laut der Mitteilung des SBU-Pressedienstes wurden im Zuge der von der internationalen Ermittlergruppe vorgenommenen Untersuchungen 5,5 Milliarden Internet-Seiten studiert, „unter anderem Blogs und Foren wie auch Seiten aus sozialen Netzwerken, auf denen unter anderem Fotos und Videos aus der Ostukraine veröffentlicht wurden“.

    Gesammelt wurden Aussagen von Zeugen, darunter auch solcher, die bis jetzt im Mittelpunkt des Konflikts stehen, heißt es in der Mitteilung. Per E-mail bekomme die Gruppe weiterhin wertvolle Fotos und Videos...............

  95. Repatriation mission finds new human remains of MH17 ...

    The Dutch repatriation mission in eastern Ukraine has recovered new human remains and personal belongings of victims of the MH17 disaster, mission leader Pieter-Jaap Aalbersberg announced Wednesday in a statement by the Dutch Ministry of Security and Justice.

    Wintry weather conditions had made it hard for the Netherlands to do recovery work in the area around the disaster site for months, but last Thursday the repatriation mission resumed. According to Aalbersberg, the work has progressed steadily, despite snow, rain and strong winds.

    The goal of the new mission is to clear two "burned" sites, locations where large fire has raged, and to search the area northwest of Petropavlivka. Due to the security situation in that district, a Dutch team has never been there before.

    The mission will last as long as necessary, at least for some weeks. According to the Dutch Ministry of Security and Justice, the mission will make the best efforts to finalize the recovery of the last human remains, personal property and debris that may be left.

    The found human remains, personal belongings and debris have been transferred to the city of Kharkiv and will later be transferred to the Netherlands for identification and investigation

  96. Dutch expert suspended after showing MH17 victim photos...

    A Dutch expert helping to identify victims from last year's MH17 airliner crash in Ukraine has been suspended after showing photographs of the dead at a public lecture, police said Thursday (Apr 23).

    "He has been suspended from his work and we'll see if other measures need to be taken," Thomas Aling, spokesman for the Dutch national forensics investigation team LTFO, told AFP. "Apparently he showed photos that cannot be shown at a public meeting," Aling said following the lecture given by George Maat and organised by a medical students association in southern city Maastricht.

    Maat, an anthropologist at Leiden University, is also accused of making comments outside his realm of expertise, notably about the causes of the crash, which were "incorrect," Aling said. All 298 passengers and crew onboard the Malaysia Airlines jetliner - most of them Dutch - died when it was shot down at high altitude over rebel-held eastern Ukraine in July last

  97. Crash MH17 en Ukraine : Berlin connaissait les risques...

    Quelques jours avant le crash du Boeing de Malaysia Airlines, provoqué par un missile, un câble diplomatique allemand soulignait les risques liés au survol de l’Est de l’Ukraine.

    Le gouvernement allemand connaissait les risques liés au survol de l’Est de l’Ukraine avant le crash du Boeing de la Malaysia Airlines et n’en a pas informé les compagnies aériennes allemandes, ont indiqué plusieurs médias allemands ce week-end. Les 298 passagers et membres d’équipage du vol MH17, dont deux tiers de Néerlandais, sont décédés le 17 juillet quand l’avion de la Malaysia Airlines a été abattu par un missile alors qu’il survolait cette zone en guerre.

    Un câble diplomatique émis par le ministère allemand des Affaires étrangères quelques jours avant le crash avait jugé la situation « préoccupante », alors qu’un avion militaire avait été abattu dans cette zone à plus de 6.000 mètres d’altitude, d’après les informations des radios-télévisions WDR et NDR et du quotidien Süddeutsche Zeitung diffusées par avance

  98. Recherchen zu MH17-Abschuss in der Ukraine: Bundesregierung hielt Warnung zurück ...
    Der Bundesregierung lagen vor dem Abschuss von Flug MH17 über der Ostukraine klare Gefahrenhinweise vor, die sie nicht an deutsche Fluggesellschaften weiter gegeben hat. Das geht nach Recherchen von WDR, NDR und "Süddeutsche Zeitung" aus internen, vertraulichen Berichten des Auswärtigen Amtes hervor.

    Der Malaysia-Airlines-Flug MH17 war am 17. Juli des vergangenen Jahres mit 298 Menschen an Bord im Kriegsgebiet in der Ostukraine abgestürzt - mutmaßlich nach einem Treffer einer Boden-Luft-Rakete. Die ukrainische Regierung und der Westen gehen davon aus, dass die Maschine von prorussischen Separatisten mit einer russischen Boden-Luft-Rakete abgeschossen wurde. Die russische Regierung sieht die Verantwortung hingegen bei der ukrainischen Luftwaffe. Da die meisten Opfer niederländische Staatsbürger waren, leiten die niederländischen Behörden die Ermittlungen. Sie sind noch nicht

  99. MH17: Berlín sabía que sobrevolar Ucrania era peligroso, pero no advirtió a aerolíneas...

    Días antes de la tragedia del avión MH17, que se estrelló el pasado 17 de julio en el este de Ucrania cobrándose la vida de 298 personas, Alemania era consciente del peligro que conllevaba sobrevolar el espacio aéreo ucraniano, aunque no advirtió a las aerolíneas alemanas, según una investigación de medios alemanes........


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